Long-term Solutions to Accelerated Global Warming
At right, below "What is a Wedge?," are links to three proposed solutions to our climate emergency, the top being my low-tech and conservation-oriented plan, the next being a tech-heavy plan of a prominent scientist/politician, and the third being the inept Obama Energy Plan. If technology-dependent plans are adopted, by the time it becomes painfully obvious that they won't work, that will be too late. I feel that solutions relying heavily on technology will allow our excessively consumptive ways to carry on, and therefore are doomed to failure because we cannot continue forever on a path of endless growth on a finite planet. Most of the posts on this site explain my ideas in further detail. I think the best solution is right here: Relocalization, not Militarization.
For New Visitors to this Blog
As this is a blog that displays posts reverse-chronologically, if you are interested in starting with my first post, see the Blog Archive at right and start with Climate Change Basics. If you wish to make a comment that disagrees with the causes, or trivializes the severity, of accelerated global warming, then this is not the cyber site for you. Such comments will not be posted. To post your actions, click here.
For New Visitors to this Blog
As this is a blog that displays posts reverse-chronologically, if you are interested in starting with my first post, see the Blog Archive at right and start with Climate Change Basics. If you wish to make a comment that disagrees with the causes, or trivializes the severity, of accelerated global warming, then this is not the cyber site for you. Such comments will not be posted. To post your actions, click here.
24 June 2009
Some Great and Helpful Responses
I think I’ve thanked all of you readers who have responded to my inquiry about what you value most, but if I missed you, I’ll thank you now. Thanks to all of you who spent time thinking about my question.
Every response I received inched me closer to the realization that was already brewing internally: it is time to pursue activism that has the potential to yield noticeable positive effects. It is time to focus on my locale. I will still send the occasional post or action alert to ask for support of great organizations or to urge the stoppage of another egregious bill. But I won’t be spending so much time staying up-to-date on the latest climate news, nor will I spend so much energy trying to figure out a way to frame our dire situation in hopes of inspiring more people to action. I’ve realized that metaphor and analogy are concepts of symbolic thought, a product of literate civilized culture, and that in searching for a great metaphor, I’ve been caught in the trap of separation from the real world, separation from that which truly sustains us: the earth. Along those lines of thought, I intend to do a post listing the most influential books I’ve read, and the most influential experiences I’ve had. That will take more thought and time than I will give right now, but when we have a very hot stretch of weather, I may be able to make that a priority. In the meantime, I’d love to hear from any readers with their list of influential books and descriptions of world-view-shaping experiences.
For this post, I’d just like to share some of the responses I’ve gotten, for I think they will be of value to everyone. I’m grateful to have such thoughtful and articulate friends and family. I’ve edited some comments to make them anonymous. If any of you who sent the responses below wish to have your comment removed, please contact me, and I’ll do it.
To the question, “What do you value most?” (which I also implied could be asked “What is your most deeply held belief?”), I got these responses:
• The most important thing to me is resisting the globalized death culture of civilization/imperialism and joining with indigenous cultures worldwide in re-establishing primacy of bioregional specific cultures in reverent relationship to Mother Earth and all life upon her.
• The things I value most are: water, soil, gardens, trees, wildlife, friends of like mind, habitat.
• For me, the loss that most sears my heart is when people are deprived of the right to carry on harmless lifeways they have been practicing for centuries. It could be farmers who are not allowed to sell raw milk because of rules written by corporate "dairies", or villagers who are no longer able to harvest their common forests because of environmental degradation that wasn't their fault, or because the resources are now critically endangered because of short-term-thinking policies, or because of political or military folly. The right to enact the ancient dances of sustenance is often inseparable from the right of ecosystems to remain vibrant and intact.
I know a lot of people would find it offensive or inappropriate to hear the following words coming out of the mouth of an ardent abortion-rights advocate, but I believe the unborn have certain inalienable rights we must fiercely defend. They have the right to the same amount of clean air and water we enjoyed. They have the right to the same opportunities for self-realization and useful work we had; the right to the same ration of beauty and biodiversity. They have the right not to live lives which are the more miserable for our actions. All generations have an equal right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The darkest and most horrifying human crime would be for one generation to decide to seize all it can, at the expense of all the others who are to come.
• My most deeply held belief is that humans can and must learn how to live on this planet with much less damage to the earth’s systems and other species. And I believe we can. If we learn from nature, who is our best teacher, then we do have a chance at change. I don’t believe humans are a plague or alien species, but I do worry that we may be heading towards our own extinction if we don’t change. Care for the Earth. Care for People. Try to equitably distribute surplus to your community.
After reflection I don’t know if this is my most deeply held belief because that might be of a more spiritual nature, but I do believe this is one of the most pressing things I hold dear.
• What I value above all else and what I genuinely crave, is a healthy vibrant and reciprocal relationship and connection with all creatures including the relationship I have with myself.
I include myself in this equation because as a woman* (and especially as a woman of colour) I really feel that the 'pornification' of mainstream culture has meant that I have spent a great deal of my life objectifying myself while being unaware that I was doing so.
Becoming aware of Feminist issues back in the late seventies and then identifying myself as a Feminist in the 80's was what first radicalized my politics. Unfortunately we feminists (as well as anyone who cared about anything worthy) lost horribly as mainstream culture became more and more pornified.
The very toxic and specific ideas of sexuality that have been sold to this culture (and continue to be) has meant that people commodify themselves and their relationships, and that leads to the commodification of everything.
For me the War against the planet is deeply connected to this commodification and misogyny. If we cannot value ourselves then how on earth will we value or stand up for anyone else?
• For me, I think it is connection that I value most.
That includes mostly and most strongly the obvious connection between myself and my family and friends, but when I think about it, It also includes whatever it is that connects me and makes me part of, well, everything. Maybe other words for the same thing are love or spirit.
Maybe that is too obvious and what you are really asking is what am I most connected to. For that if you were to draw concentric circles, in the middle circle would be my children, and my spouse would be in the next one. The next circle after that has a lot of family and friends and this farm is actually pretty near in. Some principles are probably in the next circle: It is important to treat people with love and respect. It is important to use the earth's resources minimally and carefully...
• As a parent, it seems to me, the answer to what I value most ought to be my child. In my case, that is my answer. That’s really a very expansive answer, not a narrow one. Because if what I care about most is my child, then righting the world’s wrongs and improving on what’s wonderful (or at least not further degrading it) is part of my job. There is so much wrong with the world that it’s easy to focus on that. It’s easy to be negative. Too easy. It’s harder to say, OK, this is what I can bite off and chew in an effort to make a difference. No one can fix the whole world, but everyone can make a difference.
So I would like to leave my daughter a planet that won’t continue to degrade at a horrific rate. I spend every day trying to reduce my own carbon footprint (except when I travel, and even then, I’m still conscious of what I buy and what I burn). I try not to waste water, another precious resource in increasingly short supply. I have taught my daughter to do these things, too.
I would like a better education system, a more enlightened mass of people. In my own small way, the messages I craft for my employer’s website and magazine continue to harp on these themes of trying to live in a more sustainable, harmonious way.
I would definitely like better government, which is why I will likely run for City Council next May. I could at least bring a little more enlightened discussion to the current council and maybe get a few more people to think about the impact of their actions (or inaction).
Finally, I want my daughter to be happy so I have to model happiness. This is something that has become increasingly difficult.
So while I know that much of the world is a very sad place, much of it is happy and wonderful and I will live daily in the hope of making it a bit happier and a bit more wonderful. That’s all any one person can do. And it does make a difference.
Every response I received inched me closer to the realization that was already brewing internally: it is time to pursue activism that has the potential to yield noticeable positive effects. It is time to focus on my locale. I will still send the occasional post or action alert to ask for support of great organizations or to urge the stoppage of another egregious bill. But I won’t be spending so much time staying up-to-date on the latest climate news, nor will I spend so much energy trying to figure out a way to frame our dire situation in hopes of inspiring more people to action. I’ve realized that metaphor and analogy are concepts of symbolic thought, a product of literate civilized culture, and that in searching for a great metaphor, I’ve been caught in the trap of separation from the real world, separation from that which truly sustains us: the earth. Along those lines of thought, I intend to do a post listing the most influential books I’ve read, and the most influential experiences I’ve had. That will take more thought and time than I will give right now, but when we have a very hot stretch of weather, I may be able to make that a priority. In the meantime, I’d love to hear from any readers with their list of influential books and descriptions of world-view-shaping experiences.
For this post, I’d just like to share some of the responses I’ve gotten, for I think they will be of value to everyone. I’m grateful to have such thoughtful and articulate friends and family. I’ve edited some comments to make them anonymous. If any of you who sent the responses below wish to have your comment removed, please contact me, and I’ll do it.
To the question, “What do you value most?” (which I also implied could be asked “What is your most deeply held belief?”), I got these responses:
• The most important thing to me is resisting the globalized death culture of civilization/imperialism and joining with indigenous cultures worldwide in re-establishing primacy of bioregional specific cultures in reverent relationship to Mother Earth and all life upon her.
• The things I value most are: water, soil, gardens, trees, wildlife, friends of like mind, habitat.
• For me, the loss that most sears my heart is when people are deprived of the right to carry on harmless lifeways they have been practicing for centuries. It could be farmers who are not allowed to sell raw milk because of rules written by corporate "dairies", or villagers who are no longer able to harvest their common forests because of environmental degradation that wasn't their fault, or because the resources are now critically endangered because of short-term-thinking policies, or because of political or military folly. The right to enact the ancient dances of sustenance is often inseparable from the right of ecosystems to remain vibrant and intact.
I know a lot of people would find it offensive or inappropriate to hear the following words coming out of the mouth of an ardent abortion-rights advocate, but I believe the unborn have certain inalienable rights we must fiercely defend. They have the right to the same amount of clean air and water we enjoyed. They have the right to the same opportunities for self-realization and useful work we had; the right to the same ration of beauty and biodiversity. They have the right not to live lives which are the more miserable for our actions. All generations have an equal right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The darkest and most horrifying human crime would be for one generation to decide to seize all it can, at the expense of all the others who are to come.
• My most deeply held belief is that humans can and must learn how to live on this planet with much less damage to the earth’s systems and other species. And I believe we can. If we learn from nature, who is our best teacher, then we do have a chance at change. I don’t believe humans are a plague or alien species, but I do worry that we may be heading towards our own extinction if we don’t change. Care for the Earth. Care for People. Try to equitably distribute surplus to your community.
After reflection I don’t know if this is my most deeply held belief because that might be of a more spiritual nature, but I do believe this is one of the most pressing things I hold dear.
• What I value above all else and what I genuinely crave, is a healthy vibrant and reciprocal relationship and connection with all creatures including the relationship I have with myself.
I include myself in this equation because as a woman* (and especially as a woman of colour) I really feel that the 'pornification' of mainstream culture has meant that I have spent a great deal of my life objectifying myself while being unaware that I was doing so.
Becoming aware of Feminist issues back in the late seventies and then identifying myself as a Feminist in the 80's was what first radicalized my politics. Unfortunately we feminists (as well as anyone who cared about anything worthy) lost horribly as mainstream culture became more and more pornified.
The very toxic and specific ideas of sexuality that have been sold to this culture (and continue to be) has meant that people commodify themselves and their relationships, and that leads to the commodification of everything.
For me the War against the planet is deeply connected to this commodification and misogyny. If we cannot value ourselves then how on earth will we value or stand up for anyone else?
• For me, I think it is connection that I value most.
That includes mostly and most strongly the obvious connection between myself and my family and friends, but when I think about it, It also includes whatever it is that connects me and makes me part of, well, everything. Maybe other words for the same thing are love or spirit.
Maybe that is too obvious and what you are really asking is what am I most connected to. For that if you were to draw concentric circles, in the middle circle would be my children, and my spouse would be in the next one. The next circle after that has a lot of family and friends and this farm is actually pretty near in. Some principles are probably in the next circle: It is important to treat people with love and respect. It is important to use the earth's resources minimally and carefully...
• As a parent, it seems to me, the answer to what I value most ought to be my child. In my case, that is my answer. That’s really a very expansive answer, not a narrow one. Because if what I care about most is my child, then righting the world’s wrongs and improving on what’s wonderful (or at least not further degrading it) is part of my job. There is so much wrong with the world that it’s easy to focus on that. It’s easy to be negative. Too easy. It’s harder to say, OK, this is what I can bite off and chew in an effort to make a difference. No one can fix the whole world, but everyone can make a difference.
So I would like to leave my daughter a planet that won’t continue to degrade at a horrific rate. I spend every day trying to reduce my own carbon footprint (except when I travel, and even then, I’m still conscious of what I buy and what I burn). I try not to waste water, another precious resource in increasingly short supply. I have taught my daughter to do these things, too.
I would like a better education system, a more enlightened mass of people. In my own small way, the messages I craft for my employer’s website and magazine continue to harp on these themes of trying to live in a more sustainable, harmonious way.
I would definitely like better government, which is why I will likely run for City Council next May. I could at least bring a little more enlightened discussion to the current council and maybe get a few more people to think about the impact of their actions (or inaction).
Finally, I want my daughter to be happy so I have to model happiness. This is something that has become increasingly difficult.
So while I know that much of the world is a very sad place, much of it is happy and wonderful and I will live daily in the hope of making it a bit happier and a bit more wonderful. That’s all any one person can do. And it does make a difference.
20 June 2009
Time to Write Obama
(For those of you who get my Action Alerts, you've already seen this.)
I've just received a fantastic sample letter you could edit (or not) and send to President Obama (and your representatives, if you haven't already written them).
Laurie Williams and Allan Zabel of CarbonFees.org have done impeccable research once again.
Please read "Why Waxman-Markey Won't Work" at their website: http://carbonfees.org/home/WhyWaxman-MarkeyWontWorkJune-09.pdf.
and then use their sample letter as a template or write your own, but let Obama know that the current legislation doesn't begin to address this enormous problem, in fact it may hasten our demise.
And if you do this, I would really appreciate a note saying you did it. Thanks!
Brien
I've just received a fantastic sample letter you could edit (or not) and send to President Obama (and your representatives, if you haven't already written them).
Laurie Williams and Allan Zabel of CarbonFees.org have done impeccable research once again.
Please read "Why Waxman-Markey Won't Work" at their website: http://carbonfees.org/home/WhyWaxman-MarkeyWontWorkJune-09.pdf.
and then use their sample letter as a template or write your own, but let Obama know that the current legislation doesn't begin to address this enormous problem, in fact it may hasten our demise.
And if you do this, I would really appreciate a note saying you did it. Thanks!
Brien
23 May 2009
Sample letter
House Energy and Commerce Chairman Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) is trying to get a sweeping global warming package (H.R. 2454) out of committee this week. And there are a number of flaws, but the most glaring is the use of cap-and-trade. Laurie Williams and Allan Zabel at CarbonFees.org offer a far superior approach.
I cannot stress enough that cap-and-trade is the equivalent of a sub-prime "fix" to curbing greenhouse gas emissions. It is a deeply flawed market-based scheme. If you'd really like to understand this, please read this paper (PDF) from Laurie and Allan.
On their website, you can also find this sample letter:
And here is an important excerpt from Laurie and Allan's paper sited above:
So, because I sent the above sample letter a month ago, and to show my awareness of the Waxman-Markey bill (H.R. 2454), here is the letter I'm sending to my representative.
I cannot stress enough that cap-and-trade is the equivalent of a sub-prime "fix" to curbing greenhouse gas emissions. It is a deeply flawed market-based scheme. If you'd really like to understand this, please read this paper (PDF) from Laurie and Allan.
On their website, you can also find this sample letter:
Subject: Cap-and-Trade vs. Carbon-Fees-with-100%-Rebate
Dear Representative:
To date there has been a lot of publicity about the tragedies that can result if climate change is not addressed promptly by a rapid transition away from fossil fuels to clean energy. However, there has been a lot less debate and very little public education on the alternatives for getting our economy to make this transition. Specifically, there has been little news and little debate on the choice between Cap-and-Trade vs. Carbon-Fees-With-100%-Rebate.
While many politicians are advocating Cap-and-Trade, I am asking you to become educated about the alternative of Carbon-Fees-With-100% Rebate. Please visit www.carbonfees.org to learn more about the potential for this alternative market mechanism to create the incentives necessary to rapidly transition to a post-fossil fuel economy. In addition, I also ask that you obtain expert input from economists and scientists as well as educating the public about both the urgency of the problem and the factors to consider in making this important choice.
Thank you for your consideration.
And here is an important excerpt from Laurie and Allan's paper sited above:
Given the huge momentum that cap-and-trade has developed, it is critical for every concerned citizen who believes this decision deserves additional scrutiny to communicate with their elected representatives, friends, neighbors and colleagues. . . In addition, some surveys have indicated that many people are afraid of carbon taxes or fees, even with rebates. Our belief is that the issues of urgency, effectiveness, and relative cost to consumers of cap-and-trade v carbon fees with 100% rebate have not been effectively explained to the public. We encourage you to help your friends, families, neighbors and colleagues understand these issues as the most pressing ones we face, even at this time of economic crisis.
Conclusion
While the recent debate on how to rescue the economy has tended to overshadow the debate on climate change, as many people have noted, the economic crisis has provided an opportunity. It has made it clear that massive investments must be made to stimulate the economy. The question is how to make those decisions wisely. Carbon fees with 100% rebate has the advantages of costing the government very little, returning all proceeds equally to everyone to fund continued spending on energy, and creating huge incentives for climate-saving changes. The fact that little government spending would be needed to scale-up clean energy technology would leave more room for any stimulus package to focus on the other necessary measures, such as funding for green-jobs training and a new comprehensive system of efficient transmission lines.
So, because I sent the above sample letter a month ago, and to show my awareness of the Waxman-Markey bill (H.R. 2454), here is the letter I'm sending to my representative.
Dear Representative:
As the likelihood of catastrophic climate change increases with almost every new climate science study released, prompt rapid transition away from fossil fuels to clean energy is critical. One excellent part of the solution that has garnered very little public attention is Carbon-Fees-With-100%-Rebate. This approach has three very significant advantages: costing the government very little; returning all proceeds equally to everyone to fund continued spending on energy; and creating huge incentives for climate-saving changes.
While Congressmen Waxman and Markey (and many others) are advocating Cap-and-Trade, I am asking you once again to become educated about the alternative of Carbon-Fees-With-100% Rebate. Please visit www.carbonfees.org to learn more about the potential for this alternative market mechanism to create the incentives necessary to rapidly transition to a post-fossil fuel economy. Specifically, read their 17-page Cap-and-Trade vs. Carbon Fees discussion paper. In addition, I again ask that you obtain expert input from economists and scientists as well as educating the public about both the urgency of the problem and the factors to consider in making this critical choice. I hope you will then begin urging your fellow Congresspersons to support Carbon-Fees-With-100% Rebate.
Thank you for your consideration.
22 May 2009
More Grim Predictions
This from Climate Ark:
I'm searching for a metaphor to which people can relate. If space aliens were slowly filling our atmosphere with a poison, wouldn't the world "leaders" throw everything we have at them?
Or how about this one: If the US was involved in World War III, and the nation needed everyone to conserve all resources, stop unnecessary traveling, and focus on growing as much of their own food as possible, wouldn't you want to do that? To prevent the destruction of our country?
Still not quite right, and the reason is clear: those scenarios present threats from others. I think it is safe to say that most people don't see capitalism, the endless growth economy, and big corporations as "others." I think most folks generally feel all this is necessary to their way of life. That is why I've said before we need to redefine ourselves and our culture.
Maybe I'll return to the psychopathic murderer metaphor, but this time, the murderer is your best friend, someone you trust completely. So Western industrial civilization is your best friend, and he's got a gun, which is CO2 emissions, and he's running around shooting anyone he sees. Do you try to talk him out of it (and get shot in the process) or do you do whatever it takes to knock the gun out of his hands?
Hmmm, that still does not quite capture the situation. It portrays the urgency well enough, but it is maybe too immediate. And it requires a rather natural response. Plus, the threat is only to people, not everything else we need to survive. And, he's only one person. Not a great metaphor, really.
We have all become so enculturated that we don't know how to respond. We don't have a culture that demands genuine democracy with threats of revolution. But that is what we need. Of course we need a few thousand people writing letters and making movies and posting to blogs and raising awareness, but at some point VERY soon, we need to take it up a few zillion notches and start general work stoppages, start taking land away from corporate polluters by use of sheer numbers (let them send ten thousand policemen, we will have 500,000 squatters willing to risk all to save our home).
Too radical for you? Then maybe you could join in on the awareness-raising. Maybe only 3 million Americans could demand sane policies that would lead us toward the kind of paradigm shift we so desperately need. Maybe we need 10 million, who knows, but I'm back to my original phrase: we don't know until we try.
I hope to hear from more of you that you want to make action for climate justice a regular part of your life. It really is more urgent than we've been lead to believe. And there is still a sliver of a chance that it isn't too late.
But inaction will guarantee the death of most life on this planet.
Oh, and if you think of an appropriate metaphor, let me know please!
Scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology forecast that global warming's effects this century could be twice as extreme as estimated just six years ago. They found that Earth's median surface temperature could rise 9.3 degrees F (5.2 degrees C) by 2100 compared to a 2003 study that projected a median temperature increase of 4.3 degrees F (2.4 degrees C). The new study, published in the American Meteorological Society's Journal of Climate, said the difference was due to improved economic modeling and data. The paper calls for "rapid and massive action".
I'm searching for a metaphor to which people can relate. If space aliens were slowly filling our atmosphere with a poison, wouldn't the world "leaders" throw everything we have at them?
Or how about this one: If the US was involved in World War III, and the nation needed everyone to conserve all resources, stop unnecessary traveling, and focus on growing as much of their own food as possible, wouldn't you want to do that? To prevent the destruction of our country?
Still not quite right, and the reason is clear: those scenarios present threats from others. I think it is safe to say that most people don't see capitalism, the endless growth economy, and big corporations as "others." I think most folks generally feel all this is necessary to their way of life. That is why I've said before we need to redefine ourselves and our culture.
Maybe I'll return to the psychopathic murderer metaphor, but this time, the murderer is your best friend, someone you trust completely. So Western industrial civilization is your best friend, and he's got a gun, which is CO2 emissions, and he's running around shooting anyone he sees. Do you try to talk him out of it (and get shot in the process) or do you do whatever it takes to knock the gun out of his hands?
Hmmm, that still does not quite capture the situation. It portrays the urgency well enough, but it is maybe too immediate. And it requires a rather natural response. Plus, the threat is only to people, not everything else we need to survive. And, he's only one person. Not a great metaphor, really.
We have all become so enculturated that we don't know how to respond. We don't have a culture that demands genuine democracy with threats of revolution. But that is what we need. Of course we need a few thousand people writing letters and making movies and posting to blogs and raising awareness, but at some point VERY soon, we need to take it up a few zillion notches and start general work stoppages, start taking land away from corporate polluters by use of sheer numbers (let them send ten thousand policemen, we will have 500,000 squatters willing to risk all to save our home).
Too radical for you? Then maybe you could join in on the awareness-raising. Maybe only 3 million Americans could demand sane policies that would lead us toward the kind of paradigm shift we so desperately need. Maybe we need 10 million, who knows, but I'm back to my original phrase: we don't know until we try.
I hope to hear from more of you that you want to make action for climate justice a regular part of your life. It really is more urgent than we've been lead to believe. And there is still a sliver of a chance that it isn't too late.
But inaction will guarantee the death of most life on this planet.
Oh, and if you think of an appropriate metaphor, let me know please!
01 May 2009
Boycott Palm Oil
I've known for some time that palm oil plantations were a significant cause of tropical deforestation, so I've been personally avoiding purchasing any product that mentions palm oil on the label (yes, even Newman's Organic chocolate goodies). But after reading an article about the murder of orangutans as a part of the clearing of forests to make room for these plantations, and then seeing these two articles today, I decided to make a public plea: please do not buy any product containing palm oil.
As the second article makes clear, palm oil is present in vast numbers of products and often labeled only as "vegetable oil," in the U.K. at least. I find it hard to believe that the US has stronger labeling laws of any sort than the EU, but the labels I read here usually list the possible suspects in parentheses, e.g. "vegetable oil (soy and/or cottonseed and/or palm)." But now I think it might be wise to just avoid all products that don't say what kind of vegetable oil.
I don't normally ask people to make lifestyle changes, but I can see no morally valid reason for not caring about the fate of our forests, the most diverse communities on the planet, and critical entities in preventing runaway global warming. For today, that is all I can say.
As the second article makes clear, palm oil is present in vast numbers of products and often labeled only as "vegetable oil," in the U.K. at least. I find it hard to believe that the US has stronger labeling laws of any sort than the EU, but the labels I read here usually list the possible suspects in parentheses, e.g. "vegetable oil (soy and/or cottonseed and/or palm)." But now I think it might be wise to just avoid all products that don't say what kind of vegetable oil.
I don't normally ask people to make lifestyle changes, but I can see no morally valid reason for not caring about the fate of our forests, the most diverse communities on the planet, and critical entities in preventing runaway global warming. For today, that is all I can say.
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